Video Game Violence

scribe999 said:
So, General, you have a problem with 'gangstas', not Blacks in general? Geez Louise, well why didn't you say so!?!?!?! I mean, you can't be generalizing that way...after all, hoodlums that disrespect their elders and complain consistently come from all walks of life: Russian, Black, Hispanic, Chinese, Italian, Irish, etc...

Oh, you were just talking about Blacks. Right. Apparently your BROAD generalizations weren't even that broad. Apparently, white youngsters (or for that matter, any 'color') never fall down, never complain about the real or imagined abuses of the past (*koff* *koff* the Klan). Apparently, the two teenagers in Columbine who decided to commit the most horrific school shooting in U.S. history weren't white.

For every illustration you can come up with, I can do better. This is from a blog post, but I have read about both incidents myself (and in the case of the New Jersey incident, was a resident of the state at the time as well):

Rachel Ellen Ondersma was a 17-year-old high school senior when she was stopped by the police in Grand Rapids, Mich., on Nov. 14, 1998. She had been driving erratically, the police said, and when she failed a Breathalyzer test, she was placed under arrest.

An officer cuffed Ms. Ondersma's hands behind her and left her alone in the back seat of a police cruiser. What happened after that was captured on a video camera mounted inside the vehicle. And while it would eventually be shown on the Fox television program "World's Wackiest Police Videos," it was not funny.

The camera offered a clear view through the cruiser's windshield. The microphone picked up the sound of Ms. Ondersma sobbing, then the clink of the handcuffs as she began maneuvering to free herself. She apparently stepped through her arms so her hands, still cuffed, were in front of her. Then she climbed into the front seat, started the engine and roared off. With the car hurtling along, tires squealing, Ms. Ondersma could be heard moaning, "What am I doing?" and, "They are going to have to kill me."

She roared onto a freeway, where she was clocked by pursuing officers at speeds up to 80 miles per hour. She crashed into a concrete barrier, and officers, thinking they had her boxed in, jumped out of their vehicles. But Ms. Ondersma backed up, then lurched forward and plowed into one of the police cars.

Gunfire could be heard as the police began shooting out her tires. The teenager backed up, lurched forward and crashed into the cop car again. An officer had to leap out of the way to keep from being struck.

Ms. Ondersma tried to speed away once more, but by then at least two of her tires were flat and she could no longer control the vehicle. She crashed into another concrete divider and was finally surrounded.

As I watched the videotape, I was amazed at the way she was treated when she was pulled from the cruiser. The police did not seem particularly upset. They were not rough with her, and no one could be heard cursing. One officer said: "Calm down, all right? I think you've caused enough trouble for one day."

Ms. Ondersma is white. As I watched the video, I kept thinking about an incident on the New Jersey Turnpike in April 1998 in which four young men in a van were pulled over by state troopers. Three of the men were black and one was Hispanic. They were neither drunk nor abusive. But their van did roll slowly backward, accidentally bumping the leg of one of the troopers and striking the police vehicle.

The troopers drew their weapons and opened fire. When the shooting stopped, three of the four young men had been shot and seriously wounded.


Gee, I wonder why they could still complain to this day...it's obvious that Dr. King's dreams have all come true. Of course that's not true because we keep having these arguments to this day. I don't defend the actions of criminals or real 'gangstas' who harm their own communities, but your complaints, Wiese, is based on race, and I can't get behind that. The truth is in this country, violent crime is down, black on white crime is minimal yet receives the maximum amount of coverage on television and No Child Left Behind isn't working...so relax, and read a book or something.

Oh funny I completely forgot, all white cops are such assholes. You talk about me generalizing and this whole time you know who we have been generalizing? Whites! We say whites instead where the person actually came from. African americans, yeah, we know where they came from and I would respect it if you would sto putting EVERY white cop as a KKK reincarnate. Oh, and I bet the 80% of inmates in Americas prison were all "falsley" accused by white cops like OJ, right? You wanna keep posting horrible things black and whites have done, his will be one long, never ending god damn thread. Apparently, white youngsters still arent burning blacks on crosses any more if you havent heard. And silent Im not talking about you so shut your fat ass mouth.

But sorry, I'll stop. silent might pull his nine on me, because if all white cops are racist sonofabitches (the same ones that keep your neighborhood and country safe), well then all blacks are gangstas.

And Darth Jonas has the right Idea. BLACKS AND WHITES SUCK BALLS SO LETS JUST BE AMERICAN> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GO GEORGE W!
 
Darth_Jonas said:
Crap. Weise agreed with me. Is that a bad thing?

Don't worry, Darth. I'm sure Weise misunderstood you, like he misunderstands everything. Despite my "fat ass mouth", I actually like cops. One of them probably saved my "fat ass mouth" on 9/11. My illustrations were merely showing how institutionalized racism still exists to some level in this country...whether it is in the way opportunities are denied, or how law enforcement is implemented. Weise was the one who started this escalating war of examples with that ridiculous, out-of-context news story about a horrible (and unusual) incident of enslavement and sexual exploitation, and I just felt I had to respond.

Really, I've always felt that crime and bad behavior fester greatly in areas of extreme poverty. Whites, Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, etc. living in poverty demonstrate that the level of economic opportunity determines a great deal of the level of violence and crime one experiences. It just so happens that Blacks and Hispanics are still among the minorities facing dire rates of poverty.

Y'see, Weise, you're interesting final point about "Blacks and Whites sucking balls" wasn't the kind of thing people were reading before. Your diatribes were a continuing denigration of a large and diverse generation within the overall African-American framework. If indeed you believe that people "suck" in general...I think, to that, many will agree.
 
We've been arguing with a kid? Aw, to hell with that...no wonder it was like beating up a crippled puppy. Geez...I've wasted my time.
 
The rampant extremist catholocism makes sense now. He hasn't reached the maturity of Faith that comes with the understanding that all people are loved by God and that their active choice to behave differently from the way God dictates (exercising free will) actually glorifies God. (God gave us free will, our exercising it glorifies Him, even if He'd prefer that we glorify Him by freely obeying Him).
 
I don't think he's just being a rampant extreme Catholic, I think he's just being a crazy stereotypical southern racist. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a confederate flag and a gun rack on his Ford pickup.
 
I do not feel the need to quote anything wise has sad that would take forever to comment on.

But I agree in some points like 2% and disagree with the rest. FUCK BUSH


And All cops are just a$$holes in the suit. Well the ones that I have seen.
Not every black person is a gangsta. I'm not I'm a geek. And yea it happen over a 100 years agoe. The them Time it lasted was over 400years. OVER 400 LONG A$$ FUC**IN YEARS. Thats why some will never get over it. And it was not like we were treated that way by caucasins, IT was almost every race look down on US. Yes Slavery is over. But The problems some face lasted up until even today. Discrimanation took part form most of the 1900's. DID ANYONE FORGET THAT. I am past a lot of things But I wil never forget what has happen to the ppl of my race. No one should forget anything that has happen to their Race. We all need to remeber so that one day we cant get past it and have no HAtered towards one another.

And for you to have NIGGA FOR LIFE as a sig. proves of your ignorance of this world. Stay in school and learn a thing or two. You owe The ppl who took the beatings rapeings and ridacule that much.
 
Spuds, how in the world did you get that he's Southern? His profile says he lives in ALASKA!! Please tell me you don't think of racism when you think of the South.
 
Ehhh....I've had some bad experiences in the South. I mean, not all southerners are racists, of course. But when I look at life here in cozy little Rhode Island to, say, Alabama...there's a way higher concentration of racists.
 
Darth_Jonas said:
I say that to say this: I owe no one anything. My ancestors weren't always lawful (in fact, they were notorious for running shine during prohibition), but I didn't. The high school that I went to had race riots when desegregation happened. Ironically, by the time I was walking those halls racism was boring. We knew what our parents went through, we had heard the civil rights speeches, we understood the sacrifices our parent's generation made and we respected that. I didn't care what the color of someone's skin was or whether or not their parents knew another language other than Spanish. If they were jackasses, then they were jackasses.

I consider myself an American. I know my lineage. I know the general area of where my ancesters lived and died, but that affects me only in the fact that I've got the red hair of the Scottish, the height and hairlessness of a Cherokee, and the temper of an Irishman. None of it affects the fact that I was born and raised in America, a country I love. Do I care if someone's ancestor came from Africa? Not a bit. Do I even have to respect that fact? No. No one judges me because of my ancestors, gives me special attention, or respects my lineage and I like that. Even the government doesn't take into consideration who my grandparents are when it comes time to hand out scholarships, grants, or student loans. They cared about how much my parents make, but nothing more.

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See Darth it's ppl like you who I like. And your right you don't owe anyone nothing. Aknolegment is good enough for me. It's words like that and thoughts like that that help us move forward. The ones that hold the grudges and such hold us back. I know of my past and what my family went through. ( as I statde before ). But Not nare person owes me any repercution for what happen. All that I ask is that you just remember what went down and lets move forward. IS that not what MLK Jr. wanted for our country.



And Wise,...........Never mind I'm tired of wasting my time on this fool. I will try try to ingnore him from now on
 
Thanx Prince.

Here's a fact for you, Spuds. There are more chapters and members of the KKK above the Mason-Dixon line than below it. Even though their presence is still around in the South, I've personally found more racism in the Northern cities than anywhere else. Although the west is getting pretty antagonistic towards hispanics.
 
Darth_Jonas said:
. Although the west is getting pretty antagonistic towards hispanics.

Yea what ever happen to the imagration law. Any details on that..................I need my spanish women................
 
Man, some of the most racist people I've ever met are right here in New Jersey. But, ignorance is everywhere, not commonly located in one place.

When I think of the South, I think of some of the awesomest fried meals that can possibly be cooked up for those who could give a crap about heart disease....mmmmmm, biscuits in sausage gravy!!!
 
Yup, we'll fry anything. I thought I'd seen it all, but the last time I was home (Gaston County, NC. The Gas-house baby!!) I saw a sign for fried pickles. Not my forte, but I think that completed my list of the edible things that can possibly be fried.
 
I had deep fried pickles once...it wasn't all that bad. I prefer things of a chicken or potato nature being fried up, but it wasn't unpleasant.
 
You know the funny thing not every black person likes fried food ( primaraly chicken ). And I know a lot of different race's that love fried chicken more than NAy-gros ( it's my slang for negro...thats okay for me to say that right. dont wanna piss anyone off). And we all do not like watrmelon. I hate it. lol