scribe999 said:So, General, you have a problem with 'gangstas', not Blacks in general? Geez Louise, well why didn't you say so!?!?!?! I mean, you can't be generalizing that way...after all, hoodlums that disrespect their elders and complain consistently come from all walks of life: Russian, Black, Hispanic, Chinese, Italian, Irish, etc...
Oh, you were just talking about Blacks. Right. Apparently your BROAD generalizations weren't even that broad. Apparently, white youngsters (or for that matter, any 'color') never fall down, never complain about the real or imagined abuses of the past (*koff* *koff* the Klan). Apparently, the two teenagers in Columbine who decided to commit the most horrific school shooting in U.S. history weren't white.
For every illustration you can come up with, I can do better. This is from a blog post, but I have read about both incidents myself (and in the case of the New Jersey incident, was a resident of the state at the time as well):
Rachel Ellen Ondersma was a 17-year-old high school senior when she was stopped by the police in Grand Rapids, Mich., on Nov. 14, 1998. She had been driving erratically, the police said, and when she failed a Breathalyzer test, she was placed under arrest.
An officer cuffed Ms. Ondersma's hands behind her and left her alone in the back seat of a police cruiser. What happened after that was captured on a video camera mounted inside the vehicle. And while it would eventually be shown on the Fox television program "World's Wackiest Police Videos," it was not funny.
The camera offered a clear view through the cruiser's windshield. The microphone picked up the sound of Ms. Ondersma sobbing, then the clink of the handcuffs as she began maneuvering to free herself. She apparently stepped through her arms so her hands, still cuffed, were in front of her. Then she climbed into the front seat, started the engine and roared off. With the car hurtling along, tires squealing, Ms. Ondersma could be heard moaning, "What am I doing?" and, "They are going to have to kill me."
She roared onto a freeway, where she was clocked by pursuing officers at speeds up to 80 miles per hour. She crashed into a concrete barrier, and officers, thinking they had her boxed in, jumped out of their vehicles. But Ms. Ondersma backed up, then lurched forward and plowed into one of the police cars.
Gunfire could be heard as the police began shooting out her tires. The teenager backed up, lurched forward and crashed into the cop car again. An officer had to leap out of the way to keep from being struck.
Ms. Ondersma tried to speed away once more, but by then at least two of her tires were flat and she could no longer control the vehicle. She crashed into another concrete divider and was finally surrounded.
As I watched the videotape, I was amazed at the way she was treated when she was pulled from the cruiser. The police did not seem particularly upset. They were not rough with her, and no one could be heard cursing. One officer said: "Calm down, all right? I think you've caused enough trouble for one day."
Ms. Ondersma is white. As I watched the video, I kept thinking about an incident on the New Jersey Turnpike in April 1998 in which four young men in a van were pulled over by state troopers. Three of the men were black and one was Hispanic. They were neither drunk nor abusive. But their van did roll slowly backward, accidentally bumping the leg of one of the troopers and striking the police vehicle.
The troopers drew their weapons and opened fire. When the shooting stopped, three of the four young men had been shot and seriously wounded.
Gee, I wonder why they could still complain to this day...it's obvious that Dr. King's dreams have all come true. Of course that's not true because we keep having these arguments to this day. I don't defend the actions of criminals or real 'gangstas' who harm their own communities, but your complaints, Wiese, is based on race, and I can't get behind that. The truth is in this country, violent crime is down, black on white crime is minimal yet receives the maximum amount of coverage on television and No Child Left Behind isn't working...so relax, and read a book or something.
Oh funny I completely forgot, all white cops are such assholes. You talk about me generalizing and this whole time you know who we have been generalizing? Whites! We say whites instead where the person actually came from. African americans, yeah, we know where they came from and I would respect it if you would sto putting EVERY white cop as a KKK reincarnate. Oh, and I bet the 80% of inmates in Americas prison were all "falsley" accused by white cops like OJ, right? You wanna keep posting horrible things black and whites have done, his will be one long, never ending god damn thread. Apparently, white youngsters still arent burning blacks on crosses any more if you havent heard. And silent Im not talking about you so shut your fat ass mouth.
But sorry, I'll stop. silent might pull his nine on me, because if all white cops are racist sonofabitches (the same ones that keep your neighborhood and country safe), well then all blacks are gangstas.
And Darth Jonas has the right Idea. BLACKS AND WHITES SUCK BALLS SO LETS JUST BE AMERICAN> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GO GEORGE W!