The Wii Countdown

Yeah, but from watching the videos, that's what it looks like they did.

Same with Red Steel. The sword motions are not 100% free-form.

Look, in prior Zelda games, (i.e. Wind Waker) you could affect the way Link would swing his sword by tilting the analog stick when you pushed the button. So, two inputs, one digital, one analog, determined how Link swung his sword.

Same with the new scheme. The gyroscopes sense motion rapid enough to be interpreted as a sword swing (digital signal), and the pointer sensor calculates the angle (analog signal), then the software decides that the angle of swing was closest to X or Y swing in the library.

No difference needed in the engine.
 
If that's the case, then it is, in fact, a plain-and-simple port. And therefore, would fall under the "not worth getting a Wii for."

The Wii TP is either gonna blow chunks or not gonna be worth getting it for the Wii.
 
Well, certainly, don't get a Wii if you're only getting it for TP. That's stupid. There are other reasons to get a Wii though.

And there are enough interesting bits added to TP to make it more interesting on Wii than on GCN.
 
Unfortunately, that's ALL the Wii has. The tune will change when Smash Brawl comes out next year...but until then, the Wii is just that console with crappy games and past-gen graphics.
 
It has a lot more than just Zelda:TP. Like Red Steel,the upcoming DBZ title, Call of Duty3,Bleach,Trama Center, Project H.A.M.M.E.R. You judge the system before it even has a chance to spread it wings. PS3 isn't really offering anything spectacular,but a better graphic and a very very high price.
 
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spudly who cares that they changed the controls?!? no one thats who! and yes they did change a lot of things a year ago when it got delayed and now its looks way better! and people have never bought a zelda game for the controls, people buy zelda games for the great story,
 
If you'll remember, it was unanimously stated by everyone who tried it that Red Steel blows like a summer wind in Chicago. The new DBZ game? You mean the already-crappy fighting game being lazily slapped onto the Wii? Color me "I would support abortion if it got rid of this game." Call of Duty 3? A quicky port of a game graphically beyond what the 360 is capable of, which is going to look like vomit on garbage on northern African panzer battles? Color me "I think I'll play it on a console that can handle it." Bleach? Color me "I don't want to import it and mod my Wii." Trauma Center? Color me "the controls are going to be so imprecise that it's going to be stupid." Project HAMMER? Color me "not a launch title."

The Wii isn't going to spread its wings until long after people care anymore. Which is yet another failure by Nintendo.

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spudly who cares that they changed the controls?!? no one thats who! and yes they did change a lot of things a year ago when it got delayed and now its looks way better! and people have never bought a zelda game for the controls, people buy zelda games for the great story,
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Okay I figured it all out, Your being paid right Spud, Stan or whoever is paying you to just talk shit right? Thats the whole point of this right? I mean if we went on and on about how bad Sony screwed people over or how the PS3 could be the worst system ever you'd be all like, NO sony is great, sony his the best sony can suck my left butt cheak for all I care. And you can go kick rocks somewhere. I'm not one to get mad or anything but enough is enough. You keep bringing up a failure for nintendo. They have never really faild. You know why? Becuse they still have a very LOYAL fan base. And there is nothing you or any body can say to change our minds. Micheal Jackson likes little boys but did his fans care? HELL NO.

If you wann talk ports then I guess COD3 is a port of the Wii version with better graphics right. I mean you use the same way of playing with the motion as you do in Wii. And to point out the Zelda Wii version as been in production for a long time. You think that the new control method was last minute, I bet they have been toying around with that for the longest and just now have finally perfected it.

Red Steel o yea it sucked bad. But again it was not the fially retail version of the game, just like those PS3 games. Point is Spud if you don't care why keep talking because you mouth is moving or hands are typing but we did not pay you any attention
 
Man, I WISH Stan was paying me. But aren't I the one who pointed out how Sony was screwing everyone over? What with the threads about shutting down my beloved Lik-Sang and their anti-2d fighting game policy? I think I was. Wasn't I? Oh well. And I wouldn't say that the PS3 is their worst console, mainly because it has so effectively retained all the staple 3rd party series that make it great (unlike Nintendo, who has lost Resident Evil and the Namco RPGs). And even so, the Wii isn't a bad console. Nintendo (the company) is just STUPID AS HELL. And they've failed to capitalize on every console since the NES. They may have a loyal fan base, but so do Sony and Microsoft...and at least theirs is big.

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If you wann talk ports then I guess COD3 is a port of the Wii version with better graphics right. I mean you use the same way of playing with the motion as you do in Wii. And to point out the Zelda Wii version as been in production for a long time. You think that the new control method was last minute, I bet they have been toying around with that for the longest and just now have finally perfected it.
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This just didn't make any sense. Rewrite, plz.

Red Steel o yea it sucked bad. But again it was not the fially retail version of the game, just like those PS3 games. Point is Spud if you don't care why keep talking because you mouth is moving or hands are typing but we did not pay you any attention
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Uhh...the control scheme was. And going back to the TP for the Wii...you aren't going to completely remake a game in any positive way in a few months.
 
The more I see Spud go on, the more I discover that Spud seems to think every company is stupid in it's own lovable way. Nintendo fails to capitalize on its assets as it once did, has a history of poor third party support, and Spud doesn't like the "unpowered, but not outgunned" approach Nintendo is trying. I'm sure Spud's not happy about how so many people approach Nintendo from a fanboy stand point, and then takes flack for supporting Sony.

All the same, Spud thinks Sony is screwing people in a different way, and that particular method of screwing is a bit more allowable in his mind. I do notice that Spud refuses to recognize that Sony is starting to lose exclusives, the first dreaded step to losing whole developers, but I'm sure he'd say such a detail was a desperate grab at straws.

And I know I just said "Boo, IGN" but this is the only place I can find this Farcry: Vengence for Wii trailer.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/846/846381/vids_1.html

It's got some neat stuff, but I'm staying skeptical about these ports until I get my hands on them. I'm skeptical about the controls in general, since I haven't tried it myself, but I'm still excited.
 
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The more I see Spud go on, the more I discover that Spud seems to think every company is stupid in it's own lovable way. Nintendo fails to capitalize on its assets as it once did, has a history of poor third party support, and Spud doesn't like the "unpowered, but not outgunned" approach Nintendo is trying. I'm sure Spud's not happy about how so many people approach Nintendo from a fanboy stand point, and then takes flack for supporting Sony.
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They haven't always had bad third party support. They just ruined it back on the N64 because they were stupid. They fail to capitalize on their assets...because they're stupid. And their "underpowered but not outgunned" approach COULD have worked...but THEY. WERE. STUPID. They're consistent failures. And I don't SUPPORT Sony per se. They just haven't been stupid, so I haven't felt the need to point out their shortcomings.

All the same, Spud thinks Sony is screwing people in a different way, and that particular method of screwing is a bit more allowable in his mind. I do notice that Spud refuses to recognize that Sony is starting to lose exclusives, the first dreaded step to losing whole developers, but I'm sure he'd say such a detail was a desperate grab at straws.
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Sony is
screwing people who are a threat to protect themself from any small threat. They're stepping on an ant in their driveway. Nintendo is GOUGING EVERYONE. They're screwing their customers.
And I know I just said "Boo, IGN" but this is the only place I can find this Farcry: Vengence for Wii trailer.

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/846/846381/vids_1.html
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Gametrailers?
 
spudlyff8fan said:
This just didn't make any sense. Rewrite, plz.
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I think Luda meant that even though the control scheme change was announced recently, they have been trying the new controls out long before it was announced....

And Microsoft is screwing people over with its prices.
Forgive me that I only talk about 360, but I dont plan on buying the Wii or the PS3.
Im not interested in much of their games, hate the Wii controls, and cant afford the PS3.

"Thank you for your time, and goodnight."
 
I don't spend enough time on the internet, and when I want a link now I'm not going to shop around just to prove a point when convenience takes the front seat. Gametrailers would have it, since they take everything, but I don't frequent that site, so I don't think of it.

Amazing! I can make Spud's points sound less like an attack on Nintendo's supporters. Spud's quote break down pretty much agreed with everything I supoosed about his point of view. So... Spud isn't stupid. He just has an angry, polarized, and self-righteous way of expressing things. Pardon this pat on my own back; I can't believe that forum trolls are as stupid as people think, as I'm sure the internet filters out a certain degree of intelligence in favor of speed.

I'm in the Netherlands! So that means 11 days until the USA launch, since it's about 1 AM local time. Curse this term abroad!
 
I never attacked anybody who liked Nintendo. I just made certain to know just how wrong they are. And I'm not a troll. Like I said. People just need to know how wrong they are.
 
i dont think people will care for " how wrong they are" if they have fun playing the games. and if they dont have a lot of third party there's always the downloadable games for past systems.
 
and also just throwing this out to you spudly to ponder on, maybe Nintendo in general isn't really stupid , but "nintendo of america" is the stupid one, there the ones in charge for bringing the games into the U.S
 
Yeah...this is where you should know these things.

Nintendo of America has NO power. None. They have no control over any of the main Nintendo series. They have no control over the developers of the series. They have no control over buying or selling developers. They have no power. Period. And that's because of Nintendo of Japan. And they're the reason that Nintendo is a failure right now.
 
yea ok, i didn't know that so thank you spudly.


"They haven't always had bad third party support. They just ruined it back on the N64 because they were stupid." -spudly

there was a lot of third party games for the N64, im not going to say they were the best games, but some of them were pretty good, i think the third party games started to die off in the late era of the N64 when they were getting ready for the next- generation consols.

and also spudly give me more detail on how they were stupid, im curious.
 
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