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The Old Same Place
On the offchance that people certain people only check out the PC boards, I am reposting my message from the general discussion. If you already read that message, there is nothing new here and you may continue on with your business.

For those of you who don't read my gournal, which is probably most people seeing as I have only managed to fool a few of you into thinking that I am worthy of attention, I recently purchased WoW. Currently only two of my friends play the game. And while we have had fun questing, I would like to expand my WoW community. Therefore, anyone in the mygamer circle who is interested in hanging out in Azeroth let me know. While I am new to the game, I already enjoy it immensely. So, if you are inclined, send me a PM or an email.
 
And here I thought that you were going to talk about the game.

In all honesty, I have no problem finding people to hang out with. (My guild has well over 100 people in it) What I do have problems with is finding people who want to chat about the game. You know, get down to the nitty gritties about it. Tell me if they think that the new patch did more harm then good, talk about good places to level, awesome things they have seen. Stuff like that.

That was what I was kind of hoping this thread was going to be about.
 
I don't really have a problem with that in my guild...there is always the WoW boards for that stuff too. Although they tend to be flooded with topics like "NEWB QUESTION!!" and "NERF SHAMMYS" and other such topics.
 
Gillman, if it will get you posting on the boards and involved with the site, I will be happy to discuss the game in here. I must confess though, my knowledge is fairly limited. I have only been playing the game for two or three weeks and my highest level character is 13. I may not know nearly as many specifics, but I love a good discussion as much as the next rational person. If you don't mind stopping to clarify some things, then have at it.
 
I'll discuss here too. I've been playing since beta (with a break in there somewhere) but I've never had a character over 30 because I got bored pretty quick. I wanted to try all the classes and races and professions...so I guess I know a little bit about all of it but not really anything in depth...although my roomate has had a lvl 60 for months and I usually ask him any questions I have.
 
Ugh, you give up at 30?! The game starts to get really fun when you hit around 40!

You get your mount and you start to be able to crawl all over the world. That is personally what I always thought was the best about any MMO, when you can start to see everything that the game has to offer. I love the game right now.

I am thinking about getting out of it because my internet connection is pretty bad at home, and I am getting some really low ping rates. But that is the only reason. I think that it is super awesome.

The only thing that I don't really like is that it kind of falls into the same pattern of "you need to go here and kill this for this level" as every other MMO.
 
I personally love WoW to death. Maybe literally, too, as it's eating up so much of my time that I could spend doing other, more productive things, like eating, sleeping, exercising, writing MyGamer.com articles... :duck:

But to add to this discussion, I do have one major pet peeve with WoW I have at the moment. I realize it's early in the game's lifespan, but personally I think Blizzard should address it in the next major patch.

That beef? Currently the way the game is set up, the only way to get the real high-end awards, those that make the game worthwhile and can give you that warm fuzzy feeling of special accomplishment, that you've done something worthwhile in the large Persistent World that other players can acknowledge, and not feel like some cookie-cutter quest griner that would reduce your enjoyment of the game, is to engage in PvP combat. It's the only way, currently - once you hit level 60 and do every quest in the game, unless you're willing to engage in PvP, you're done. Finished. You might as well uninstall the game. I can't find a way to justify paying a monthly fee for a game that has a finite, foreseeable ending. As is, the only way to make this game last the length of several months and possibly years, to keep it fresh and exciting, is to engage in PvP.

The problem with this? Well, it leaves behind those of us who don't like PvP. I'm one of them. Call me a carebear all you want, but I just hate it. No matter how hard I try and how hard I practice, I just can't get any good at it. It just frustrates me to death whenever I engage in it. I honestly try to circle-strafe with the mouse to the best of my ability, because there are a huge number of buttons to juggle in an MMORPG, it makes circle-strafing in WoW infinitely harder for me than an FPS with a much simpler control set-up, like Half-Life 2. Even when I have a plan set up for dealing with an opponent, when the time comes, all the pressure just makes me choke. All the spells, stances, shapeshifts and such become so infinitely daunting to keep track of that it's impossible for me to memorize them all, so I play "find the key" for the first spell of my salvo, and by the time I find it, the Warrior does ten thousand critical strikes on me for 9999999999 HP or thereabouts each and I get fuxx0red. Not to mention that apparently in Contested Territories I seem to be a magnet for high-level jerks who derive some kind of perverse pleasure of making my questing experience in these areas an exercise in boredom-torture, as they make my game slow to a crawl by having me corpse-run ten gadzillion times, time I could spend better actually having fun doing my quests. And since many quests take place in Contested Territory, I am effectively cut off from entire portions of the game. (Although I'm not a fan of PvP, I still have a couple of characters on PvP servers because I have friends IRL who refuse to play anywhere else.)

Blizzard is apparently committed to making the game enjoyable for PvPers and carebears alike, as in many FAQs, press releases, guides, etc., they repeatedly state their commitment to make non-PvPers as happy with the game as PvPers. But what's their apparent solution? Make more PvP options, in the form of the Battlegrounds, with the intent of giving a way for non-PvPers to have a more enjoyable experience PvPing (by removing boring things such as corpse runs) and get them to PvP, inadvertently opening up ways to cheat one's way to the PvP top in the process. So, to make the game enjoyable for those who don't like PvP, you create more PvP? No offense, Blizzard, but I don't think I need to tell anyone else how foolish that philosophy is.

I'd say more, but I don't want this post to become a Dickens-length novel. (The editors at MyGamer.com prefer Hemingway anyway.)
 
Well, Phillip, before I respond, I must correct a horrible, grotesque, and utterly incorrect fallicy that you support in your comments. I mean this sort of heinous generalization should be banworthy. I MEAN, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WOULD TURN THIS FORUM INTO A HOUSE OF LIES.

I don't like Hemmingwey. Of course, I have only read A Farewell to Arms but yeah I didn't like it. However, we are not here to discuss the literary merits of Charles Dikens (with a K the well known Dutch author).

Interesting comments about PVP. I am still fairly new to the game, but am working my characters forward. I have a lvl 19 rogue and a lvl 16 priest. With regards to PVP, thus far, I really like it, but then again, my only experience with it is in dueling, as I haven't run into a member of the horde yet. One showed up in Westfall, but they ran away before we could change over to pvp and attack. While I really like dueling, I can see the frustration of the corpse running issue. So, perhaps when I engage in true pvp, my opinions may change. But I suck at it so far as well. Out of the dozen or so duels I've done, I've only won one. My priest beat a warrior who was several levels below me. For some reason, I have fought more with my priest than my rogue. I have left the pvp flag on, so we shall see if I run into any horde people.

The big leap in the game I have just made is through the auction house. My friend kept prodding me to try out the auction house and I finally did with my priest, who is also an enchanter. Man, simple enchanting stuff sells for a ton. I have found my cash cow. We shall see what happens with that.

Anyway, I am at work now and the break is over. I have found myself addicted to this game, so I will be glad to continue the discussion.

And Phillip, I hope you realized, but my writing might not have been brilliantly conceived enough, that I was just joking about seeming angry.
 
I might be able to help you out with some PvP strategies, if you're resigned to playing on that type of server with your friends. Who knows, maybe one day you might end up simply not liking it instead of hating it.
 
Well in that case...wow, didn't expect three responses. It really all depends on what class you are, who you're fighting, and if you're fighting with friends or against multiple enemies. I'm certainly not an expert, but I have some ideas that could probably help add to the discussion from things I've learned from playing and reading. Got anything more specific?
 
Well I'm a 29 orc warrior protection-spec'd if that helps. I usually do fine with casters my level or even a few above but my main problem is when I run into another tank who is about my level or higher...so, another warrior. I find it is harder to get the edge on someone who has the same skill sets as you do and similiar, if not better, armor and weapons. So if I were taking on a warrior for example what should i do? I tend to try and demoralizing shout them, disarm them if I can, then sunder armor while they are disarmed...sometimes it works but sometimes I think I try to do too much instead of just all out attacking them.

Anyways. Yeah. So any help with enemies with higher hit points and armor value really.
 
I have a lvl 21 rogue and lvl 17 priest. With my rogue, I do ok. If I can get an ambush in, it's usually a close duel. I still lose most of them, but they are close. One of things I think affects me is my equipment. I don't think my stuff is that great.

With my priest, ehhh. I'm specializing in healing stuff, so I am not truly concerned about doing great in individual pvp. I like to use psychic scream and make them run away. That is always fun.

Another question would be: where is a good place for midlevel (20-40) to pvp? So far the ones I have run into are 50+. I have no chance against them. Just curious. I see people with Private titles near my level. I assume many of them were escorted into enemy territory with a high level player. Or they know of this mythical place where mid-levels can pvp. Again, just curious.
 
Ronan, basically your biggest set back with fighting warriors is you are protection specced and they are probably arms/fury. Protection is great for instances and tanking, but in PvP it will always be difficult for you to fight a warrior who is specced to do damage. You just have to decide what is more important and sacrifice the other, or pick a balance of the talents and be decent but not great at both. Most warriors I know don't use protection until they are much higher in level and are fighting in the level 50-60 instances, but it really depends on what you do most. Also keep in mind that many people believe warriors are not very good at lower levels, but peak in the higher ones for PvP.

Wijg, one of your best PvP spells will be mindflay. With that, you can use psychic scream, shadow word: pain, mind blast ( i think that's what it's called, the heavy threat shadow spell), and then they will be finishing their running away and mind flay will slow them down 50% as they try to get back to you. By the time they make it there, shield yourself, heal if you need too, and psychic scream will be ready again soon. Power word: shield is also a great talent to use, the one that decreases the time you can recast it on someone by 15 seconds. Also, always dispel your enemy, you never know what types of buffs they have. Ghost wolf form on shamans can also be dispelled. As for places to fight, it will always be somewhat difficult at the lower levels unless you're on a brand new server. The best place to fight people your level will be in either Arathi Basin or Warsong Gulch, the two battlegrounds instances, but I don't recommend you go in there until around level 25-27 because if you are level 20 and a level 29 wants to kill you, there isn't much you can do about it. Other places you might be able to find outside battlegrounds are Stonetalon Mountains and Redridge, but you'd be lucky to find someone solo to fight, and even if you do, they will probably announce on local defense that you are there, and it could get ugly fast.

Hope this helps, let me know if it didn't and I'll find out more info.
 
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Yeah it helps...I dunno if I want to bother respecing myself though...I like being the tank at the moment but it really isn't that helpful for soloing (which I like to do a lot of too).
 
My brain's hurting a good deal right now for some reason, so I'll get more specific later, but for now, basic character summaries of what I've got:
  • Level 31 Night Elf Druid, Scarlet Crusade (RP), most talent points in Restoration (with a fair number in the other two)
  • Level 29 Tauren Hunter, Mannoroth (PvP), most talent points in Survival (again, fair numbers in the other two)
  • Level 5 Undead Priest, Twisting Nether (RPPvP), no talent points yet

I'll post more later, but first, it would be helpful if you told me what other information you need from me in order to give me some good advice. Pweeze? :construct