PrinceLUDA's Bull****

I haven't fully formulated my opinion on this, but I really think Reparations and Affirmative Action are two different topics. Reparations are clearly meant to address specific, perceived injustices in the past, while Affirmative Action is about addressing currently perceived issues of equality by creating opportunities, whether you agree with it or not. It's not quite a check and an "I'm sorry".
 
Ahhh Thats the word I was looking for. Thanks Scribe.


Affermitive Action is a different topic. A Reparations is another.

So lets start with Reparations. should our goverment be giveing back more or has the Goverment given back enough. Here's something that some may not know. there are ppl trying to milk the goverment in getting money back. I'll bee back later with more on this.
 
I agree with Basil on this one.....give them something, but money is where i draw the line.....I mean pretty soon every "minority"<<and i use that term loosely>>>group would be coming out of the woodworks screaming affirmative action.....I go back to my dad, granddad, and great granddad...They all busted their ass to get to where they were or are right now, without any handouts, which is what i feel the giving money to the "people who suffered" is.....I think everyone needs to man up and stop looking for a free ride....I mean, should the guy that doesn't get off his happy ass and get a job for like 10 years, should he get cash 'cause one of his relatives suffered??....and that said relative is probably only known by name to mr. unemployed.....It makes no sense.............OH WAIT, WHEN I WAS IN MY FIRST YEAR OF JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL (WAY BACK WHEN!!!), I GOT STUFFED IN LOCKERS ON A WEEKLY BASIS!!....I think i'm entitled 'cause i suffered, and missed lunch many time, because of this....I mean, come on:irked:
 
I can understand Asylum's hostility to the concept of giving something to someone for an event that happened to another person in another time, but things are not always so simply black and white.

Take Native American tribes, for instance. Most of the tribes in North America suffered greatly during U.S. expansion to the point where some were annihilated. The govt. then placed them into "reservations" where they would be "taken care of", but mostly they were left to their own devices, or worse, swindled by govt. contractors who pawned of rotting meat and disease-riddled blankets on the tribes. Now, you might say that we don't do that today, that the playing field is level, and maybe in some of those places where the tribes were able to start casinos it has become level. However, the reality is that Native Americans living on reservations have to deal with high mortality rates...much of it from suicide. They have fewer opportunities and lack basic educational necessities. Jobs are scarce, and you can see why many tribes lobby the govt. for the rights to build casinos.

If these problems weren't an ongoing concern, of course I'd say the government and the people of the United States don't owe them anything. However, these concerns have been addressed sporadically and without much enthusiasm for almost a century-and-a-half, and continues to plague us as a society. If reparations are used in targeted ways to create educational opportunities and jobs, not just a handout and a goodbye, I think it would be worthwhile to put aside some tax money for those who were wronged and continue to be wronged.
 
asylum_boy said:
OH WAIT, WHEN I WAS IN MY FIRST YEAR OF JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL (WAY BACK WHEN!!!), I GOT STUFFED IN LOCKERS ON A WEEKLY BASIS!!....I think i'm entitled 'cause i suffered, and missed lunch many time, because of this....I mean, come on:irked:


HAHAHA, You know what Your right you do deserve something.

But I do agree that Money is not an option. But get this. Japaness Americans where given money for events that took place in WWII. Now the kicker is most of them were kids during that time. So yes the should have gotten something. But Indians got Casino's. Just wit till I get home to dig up this information. Some things may suprise everyone.
 
So Reparations. This is the most Bullshit of Bullshit. No descendant of any race should pay or be paid reparation for something that our Government has done. Am I right or wrong.

No matter what this is still to some a black and white argument. I’m black ( African American ) and I’m pass the whole slavery thing and what not. I do not feel that the Government owes me a goddamn thing. Due to affirmative action and what not I have the chance to do something with my life. That’s reparation right? But it’s my choice to do something with this opportunity or not. But there are some who believe that the government owes black ppl money. On the show , and I’m sad to say this, He said that “all white descendants should pay because they benefited simply cause they white”. Now this pissed me off because he looks so ignorant saying this. If you came to the US after Slavery then you don’t owe black ppl nothing. Not only that but not every slave master descendant owes reparation. This is whack and I’m pissed will continue soon………………………….
 
Other countries think we're so ridiculous. A missionary friend of mine has close contact with India (Calcutta being the poorest city in the world, look it up). They think it's ridiculous that the #1 health problem among American poor is obesity. Their poor starve, have diseases and sell their daughters into prostitution at the age of 3, 4, 5. (It's been a prevailing belief that sex with a virgin will take the STD's from you and pass them to the virgin, so they get'em as young as possible. Makes you want to kill something doesn't it?). Now THOSE kids deserve reparations.
 
I want to know what kind of parent would sell out their kids like that, and pretty much give em that sort of death sentence.
 
Yea thats Foul. They do deserve something. But who really cares about them. Not many do. i don't mean the in a bad way. But we could help. Right here in the US we make enough money to help thme out.. Matter of fact I sure we here at Mygamer could help. Instead of buying 360 games and PS3's. HDTV's we don't need them, help out the kids that suffer. They need reparation plan.



STAN You should start something to help raise money for these kids.